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Canadian Rail no10 august-1939

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Numbsr 10
August.1939.
The BULLETIN o~ the
C~~P~I;-N RAILROAD SISTORICAL ASSOCIATION
Chateau de R~ezay, Montreal No. 10, August, 1939.
EARLY LOCOMOTIVES ON VP3COUVER ISLAND
by
I. E. Barr
!, .. lr. Barr, who has been an Out-of -tovrn ~.1embcr of this
Association for SOr!le six years, was a dispatcher on the
Esquimalt and Nan.:!.im.o Railway for many years. Research
into railway history is his hobby and he has established
a reputation for hi!}!self as a:l Butho:ity on the rsilViays
of British Columbia. He is no~ resident in Victoria, B.C.
Due to fortt!nate preservation p..nd tIc wos a slide vAlve, the safety
a certain aDlount of publicity, the valve wos spring 10sded e.!d the
10cor:l.Otive Countess of Dutferin·, pressure carried t{F.1S 115 pou:lds.
now on exhibition in a sm.all park The pump was opBrated by an eccen-
in front of the Canadian Pacific tric on the m:lin axle. The weight
station in VJinnipe~, has become in running order was about 10 tons.
1/icely kno?n as t~e first locomo-In 1903 it was re-conditioned by
tive in western Ceno.da end simi-th~ lote Viilli~ H. Hl11, Master
larly the Curly, now pr0scrved ! .. I~ch3nic of the N0W Vancouver Coal
in Hastings Park in Vancouver, COllip~ny, and sold to a contr~ctor
beers a plate stating that it 1aS for construction work neflr Now West-..-
the first ifi British Columbic. minster.
Actually, hov:ever, there r!ere sov-Tha second to arrive l.fes the
oral earlier locomotives on Ven-Eucletc.w nnd it was lrmded in
couver IsL.1nd (lnd one of them, the 1866. It else …. :os built at Stc.ley­
Pioneer, W3S ut wor};: nesrly 15 bridRe ~md was similar to tho
years befo::ce the Countess of Pioneer but so:nel{h~t sreallcr. At
Dufferin
lt
crrived ~t St. Boniface its arrilcl f! number of Indians
on the ceck of c sco~. gathered cround, saying th~t ten of
The Vancouver Coal Comyony com-them could hold it fro::1 30vi::lg, so
menccd :;:nining op~r.~tions in the the Eucl~tnVT tribe, being the smoll-·
vicinity of NflnGLUo in the 0r.lrly est on the island, felt proud of
sixties and in 1863 they imported the locor.lotivo bei:lg nr.::aed r..iter
from Engl1nd the smell st~nd:-.rd them. It w.r::.s r.. saddle tr.nk en9..ine, gau.ge
loco:n.otive Pioneer. It was in:)ide connected, oylinde-rs 6×8,
built at Staleybridge, near ~la!l-drivP-rs 30 snd the v!··ter feed pump
chester, a!1d the manufacturers was op~r8ted from the 7rist pin.
sent out Harry Cooper and Thomas The Euclatt?<7 we.s used principslly
E. Peck 7i th the engine to set it to tf.lke balL!st from th.::.~ ships. It
UO and. they becaue the first en-W!)S solei in 1303 to the JOSGph
glneer and fire~an west of Orrtario.Dobeson Foundry ct Nanoimo ~nd brok-· The
UPioneer
ll
was a saddle tanl.c en up seve-,ral years Intcr.
engine, outside connectec., cy1in-Thl) ne::-.t to a01)aer w::!s th~ flNen-
c.ers 8xlO,36 drivers; the throt-8.iv.o i:-~ 1874. 11: wes built by Boil-:-
ing (,:ld Lo,;1 at Leeds …. ,nc . · …. 5 g)n··
el-::ll~r si~il :lr to the Pioneer
lnc ~ucl~ te:::. It r:JS a 0-4-0
s::c.::le t:!n~ .-:::-lGine ;lith cylind~rs
8:.:10, :)6 c!ivers .:1::1d weighed c.bout
10 tons. ~fter ~r.:ly yecTs service
iC ::!::lS sold to the Dobeson Foundry,
!~tuil t -:-:!.U tten sold to John W.
Ccbt:.rr: i.r.o used it in his lumber­
in,:, O)i~T,~tior:s na~r South Welling­
ton. L~ t~ 1 t ,·:~s sold to the
P<;.Ci:;:ic Gre!:.t Eastern R~ilw~.y for
l-::ying tr~c~ curing constr~ction
.:nd :in~lly it llIlS sc:::!.pped ::::.bout
lODE. •
T::e Lo:lcon, built by M~nning
.:.:-~d W::l:cdle of L~cds, C:l!lC out in
1884. It Y!Js.:. 0-6-0 3ido ten!c
loco:no-:ivc-, ir:sidc connected,with
lOx12 cy:i::ld~rs, 54 drivers · .. ·nd
it ~:;eig;;~ci !:ocut 20 tons. In 1918
it .::2S sold to ~ junl{ de~ler in
V~r:couv~~ lr:d scrc.?ped.
In 1891 t~e VDncouv~r Co~l Co.
ourchc:scd its first modern loco­
rnotivo fro:n the BJldvlin Locomotive
ilorks i it l!O;:S c~110d the S1n Fr:::
ncisco, 1::terNo.5; it ~¥!lS
0-6-0 ~ype wit~ 15y.22 cylj.Ildi~rs,
~S
drivers ::nd i-:; iicigh.:;d ctout
35 Cons. It gc.ve ~ood service ~nd
enothcr J No.6, 7/:::S bought i!1 1896
c.:1d still 1~t2r Nos.? ~nd 8. With
th0 old loco~oti ves i t -:1~S hp..rd to
shin 2000 tons of coo.l in 12 hours
but· shortly :.fter No.6 wes yut to
work 5600 tons were out cbeG.rd tho
S.S.Titt.nin in 10-1/2 hours which
at th-:.t tillC ::;~s Q vio::ld record.
The Vancouver Coal Company be­
cat.e the New VD:!couver Ceel Co.,
t~en ~he ~estern Fuel Compa::lY and
is nov; t~1e CO!1adie.n Collieries
(Dunsmuir) Ltd .• ~nd controls most
of the l~rge mines on V.:.ncouv·er
Island.
c.-·scc:n~jinf pull::d the empties bock.
In 18?4 ~.lr. Dig6le, one a! .. the p?rt­
ners, bDurht tyro trc.ctio~1 en~ines
f!CCl tho Adrr .. i r~l ty in London !lhich,
on nrrivf:11, V1cre ch.sngcd to loco-
motives by the cpplic~tior. of
fl:-cgcd :·7heels. They ench h!!d one
cylinder mauntr;d on th~ top of the
bOiler, c fly whe~l siy. feet in
di!I:lct-:::-r :Ind eo ch~in rreE!r to the
dri v(rs. One of the sa e!lgincs wes
used for shuntinp. ~t the mi:!c Cind
the oth~r ~t the D€p~rturc 30y
r.harf, each one replacing six
hO.rses.
rhe!1 Robert Dunsmuir onened the
WellinBton Colliery he built a 5
nile line from 1.?ellington to De­
pc.ri:urc B~y. usi:lg fir r:::.ils, 4
X(, to?pcd ;7ith strap iron. The
gauge origir…ell~r wns 2 ft.6 inches
but letar 1!!r!.S 7;idc!lcd to 3 feet.
It .!os IJ gre.vity-oper:J.ted cable
r?ilwey f.:ld ;}:e lo~ded C!lrs in
In 1878 thes0 rebuilt traction
en(Jines were replaced by tt10 s!!lell
0-6-0 saddle tank engines, theDuke
end Duchess, products or the
Baldwin Locomotive !orlcs. TheDuke
!las built in 1876 and 71as exhibited
at the ~erican Centennial Sxhibi­
tion, where ~!r.Dunsmuir sa
1
.1 it and
liked it so v.rell that he boup.:ht it
end ordered 8:i.1other just Iil{:? it;
tbey arrived at Nanaimo in 1878.
These locomotives had 10×12 cylin­
ders ,42 drivers and oril?in.slly
wer0 2 feet 6 inch seuga but later
~are elt~red to 3 feet gauge. The
Du!;:e : til 1909 .:hen it was scrapped but
the Duchess had a much aore in­
teresting C-3r,~et. At the time of
the Yukon Gold Rush, C~ptein John
Irving, I!len.!gcr of the CG.nc.dian
Pacific Nevig.ltion Co:np::my, ent
north to build stecmbo·:J.ts on the
northern la.kes. The rOllte fro!!!.
Sko@:o:;ay to Atlin City luS by the
Ylhi tc Pass r.nd Yu!con Railway to
Bl3nnett Lako, by boat across to
Taku Arm, then across a portage to
Scotia Bay on Atlin Lake and then
by boat to Atlin City. Atltn Lake
Ia5 40 feet higher then Taku Arm
end the distance across was 2-1/2
miles, so the Atlin Southern Rail­
way was built across the portage.
This little p-old rush
fl
railway was
O!1e of the smellest and most ex­
pensive in the world and the pass­
enGer fare was Tiio Dollars for tha
t~o and a half miles. At first it
was operated by horse power but in
1·399 the Duchess was bOlllZ:1t and
ser..-::; Llorth on t:1e S.S .Danube. At
Welli!lp:tC::t it he.d bp.en a ooal­
bl:::1C~:~ but v/he!l 1:;: went north it
.0S cOrlverted i!lto a ~Iood-burner
and sCiUe:lhot l::!ter into an 011-
bur:-.er. Thi; cars !lere flat cars
uith S0~ts aleng the sides fncin~
i.m~e.rds; ireight aI.d b~ggagc ?.ere
loc.oed bct;/ecn tr..e seats J)nd in
m:my Cf.S(lS the pc.ssengl!rs had to
p;et out and wel:< end ~ush to help
the DuchGss ov~r the grade. The
Atlir.. Southern beo~le part of the
Whi to Pess and Yulwn and a few
yr:ers ago th;::o Duchess was spur­
red off at raku City and a more
modern lcco.n.iotive assigned to this
run. It is still there:
Follming th~ Duke e:1d Duch­
essll J l~rr .Duns!:.uir purchased thr00
more Baldt:in er..[2i::1.es which ./Gre
of th0 same t.ype but a little lar­
ger. T:1ey ;9~re the IIRobert DullS­
muir ill 1883. the DJ:?arture Bay in 13.37 and
the Victoria in 1889.
Th?y were later rebuilt to star.dard
gauae and 7!orlced around the mi!1es
for many years.
GOi!1g back a fe;7 yoars, a Mr.
Chcadler, frOIl Ssn Fra!1cisco,
oU~!1ed a minp. at East Wellington
Elrld he brought in three Baldwin
locor:lotives -:o.hich 7Bre the sar.LC as
the l?.t~r Du!1smuir engines. They
,;,ere the Pramier builtin 1873
Dnd the Ec.st lellii.lgton
fl
cnd San
Francisco both built in 1883; the
Premier ~:as second ha~lc. as they
all arrived in 1883. Thoy viera
0-6-0 saddle tank engines v,ith
10×20 cylinders end 30 drivers.
A short tim·~ l:lter the mir:03 l7ElS
closed becnuse of c. threatened
strike n:ld the locomotives wero
then purch~sed by 1I,1r .Dunsmuir Dnd
eventu~lly ~~re altered to standard
g.:lU.Qe. I!l 1905 the Premier 71Q.S
tr-:!.!1sf;,3rrrld to the Esquime.lt ond
Nrmflimo Rr.ilwny for sv~itch1!.g pur­
poses ~:ld fin~lly scr~ppcd in 1912.
~ ,.,-
CANADJ.AN NATIO: t-.1Jl.lBERS
~Tt.f..,ffiERS OF LOCOMOTIVES SCRAPPED DURING 1938
324 646 875 1616 2073
:331 685 884 1805 2080
335 686 887 1806 2083
360 708 1545 1807 7042
~61 712 1585 1809 7048
364 7H 1592 1894 7052
617 730 1602 1925 7068
624 778 1606 1959 7080
643 870 1607 1971 7187
644 873 1612 1973 8011
OF LOC01!OTIVES WITHDRAWN FR011 SERVIOE DURING 1938
1001
.
1011
1077
11 76
1216
1220
1242
1812
1841 1871
1874
1879
1890
5512
5520
5527
5539
7309

…. HL~(;i~J;.L
CalUc,:BS
OF :;,aLEAGE
ST3£i RAI:lDAYS OF C
J…!.lADA
~933
Canad~a~
Nationa~
DO!:loourg
to St. ~farc,
Sanr..etGrre
to :Joranda,
Twi::1 City to ~.~e.ckies,
Que. Que.
Ont.
22.25m.
63.11 m.
33.55 m.
Aban:oned
Opened
Abandoned B.T.C.Order­B.
T.C.Ordor
B.T.C.Order
No.556?1
No.55?3S
No.56466
Heating-
of r.~e.y: 10th: Held at the
C;:1a tauu de Re:::lzzIJ.Y. Th~re was
e~hibi~ed
Robert Do~ans recent
end valuable boo~~, Statutory
History
of the Stea~ a~d Electric
lie. i 1 ways at: Ce~a de, 1636 -193?tl ,
,ublished
by the Department
of
Transport
. A letter 7ms Simt to
the Hayor of Atl
in, B.C. urging
hi~ to Dr0serve
the locomotive
HDuchess
l1
builtin
1877 aZld now
at Talru City. Mr. F. 1-. Pouliot,
~.L.A. and C.P. dispatcher
, de­
liVered
the lecture of the evening
on tlTrein Dispc..tching
.
l:e~tinp. of June 14th: Hflld at
the home of Mr. and Mrs. Terrollx,
St. La~bGrt. Start instructions
end ti..l!1etables
of the Royal Tour
f::ld photographs
of the Trains ~iIere
do~cted. The question
of suitably
COlll:eInOrating
one hundred years
of steen locomotion on the South
Pictou RJ.i lroad of Nova Sc otia
wes reopened. ~~r. J . .Alex.
E~~ison,
Alderman
of Montraal,
inforr.J.ally
discussed
to 91cs con­t
ained in his collection
of early
i£ontre~l
newspcpers
.
Executive
(1!?etin;Q;s:
Two executive
m·etings
tvere celled,
on~ on June
29th the oth-!r on July 19th, to
discuss
the rereov~l of the Assoc­
i~~ionts
collections
fro~ the
Cheteau
de Ramezsy
to .~ tem.;>orery
repository
in St. L~mbert.
_:_sbestos -D~~ille
Excursion of
Julv 9th: SO!:le fittoen members
of
ASSOCIATION
the ASSOCiation
tOC!C p:lrt in ~n
inspection trip to the mine Dnd
priv3t2
railwny of the Johns-afan­
ville Company ~t Asbestos,
~ue. on
Sunday, July 9th. Trcvclling
vie
C.N.R. to Rich~ond
I!!r..d lie charter­
ed bus to the mine the perty hud
luncho:::on
I!!t the staii house. He!s
thr;y }lere
joined by -:.n equ.3l nmr..­
ber o:r. compr.my of1ici~ls end tho::ir
wi ves E:!nd bODrding an eDse IVl1t ion
trnin the 9!:.rty spir~llcd dOW!1 in-,
to the open4nine pit. T~en th~!2
iollowi:ld a trip on t~e privElte
r~ili?:.y to Dnnville (C.H.R. junction) I!nc
beck, -:n inspection
of the en­
~ine-hous~ ~nd
rolling
stock, and
of thf: mill. After h~ving dill..1er
~t Rich~ond
the memb~rs
returned
to h10ntreal lO.:lded down
with as­
bestos ore, tired but hQPpy~
One Hundredth
1:nni vers[~ry,
South
Pictou Railroed
: TillS
llutumn it
is ~0~0d t~at the One Hundredth
Anniversary of the First Steam
R~ilt>f~y
in the MElri thuGS vlhich
1(;lls on 3epte!!lber 19th ffi:.y be
suiJ:;,lbly
m:rked by I=i ccll3Drntion
in :::re;r: Gl·1.sgow, NOVel Scoti!l,
under
the ~us~ices
of the locp.l ~unici­
pc.l .~ut}lOr1 tit:s, by tho decor!tion
of -(;he locomotive
Samson
now in
the Union Station,
Hf;.lifc.x, and by
& display of photoer~phs end
ciocuments
It the Novo Scotia
Provinci~
l Exhibition
during the
lllst week of August.
Loco!:otiVG
L~.st , V
Loco;::otiv
ez of t !!.=: _!_:3br:stos
-:nd D~nvillt:
Ratlr7c.y
–of-i·h-e-
Ccn~di~ri
Jon~s=~cnvi1lc
Co. , Lii ted
CO:Jpiled
by L. H. G.ole
R~il:!cy
Superinte~ldcnt
Ro~d Bu.:!.ld0rs
T~oc
. –
Cy1i:lders
Driv.:::::s
Built BUilds::-Re:::l NW7~b0r
)Ju::fo.::r
i5.rl~Oi7
G(IU~(~
1 0-4-0 10
x 14 24 1895+ Scro.p.ged
2 0-4-0
10 x 14 24
or sold 3
0-4-0
10 z 11 2~
. –
4 0-4-0
10 x 14 24
5 0-4-0
10 x 14 24
6
0-4-0 10
x 1< 24
St~nd(lrd
G~u,9e
0-4-0 16
x 26 60-
1868 Neilson
Fron G.T.R.
in 189?Scrn.pped.
? 1239
0-6-0
,~
_w x 16 28
1914 C:ln.Loco.
Sold
8 …319 0-6-0
13 x 16 28 1916 C~n.Loco. Sold
9 49??
0-4-0
16 x 22
38 ~ort~r Bought 19l? ;
sold
10
4982
0-4-0
16 x 22
~
Portor
ditt.o
II 45553
0-4-0T
1? x 24
44 1908 liIontrec1
EOll t
191?; scr.1Pped
12
0-4-0
Diesel 36 193? M·onvi11e
In s~rvice
13 1248
0-4-0T
15 x 22
42 1914 ClJ.n .Loco .
From B~ldy
iil 1920 ;
in service
H
1249 0-4-0T
15 Yo 22 42
1914 Co.n.Loco. ditto
.15 54481
0-6-0 1? x 24 40
1913 ~!ontre~l
From Well-
and; in service
10 54{S2
0-6-0 1? x
OA
w_
40
1913 ?:.:!ontreal
ditto
l?
l443
0-4-0T 15 x 22 42 1917 Can .Loco.
I!l service
18
1444
0-4-0T 15 x 22 42 191? Can.Loco.
In service
20 27148
0-6-0
19 x 26
44 1900 A.-:lerican
FroI:l N . Y.C.
in 1923 ;
in service
21
5519 0-6-0
19 x 26 44 1900 ./;..merican
F:-on N . Y.C.
in 1923 ;
i!l service
22 26008
0-6-0
19 x 26
44 1900 _~1Tlerican
ditto
23 5525
0-6-0 19 y.
26 44 1900 _l1..£1e ric an From N. Y.C.
in 1923 ;
in service
24
5588 0-6-0
19 x
0
_0
44 1900 _-Ler ican
ditto
25
552l
0-6-0
19 x 26 44 1900 L!lerican
ditto
26 6?54
0-6-0
21 x 28
50 1908 P,erican
From N.Y.C.
in 193?;
in s>STvice
2?
675?
0-6-0
21 x 28 50 1908 J,-:-:er 1c8.-11.
ditto
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